tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post7675047748511358005..comments2023-08-28T03:21:40.351-07:00Comments on To all the world...: Pittsburgh's "Seusscharist" sacrilegeRobert S. Mundayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07377574491812912442noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-8670391912989454002010-11-05T22:47:37.300-07:002010-11-05T22:47:37.300-07:00Brian, thank you for the link to the text of the S...Brian, thank you for the link to the text of the Seusscharist. I am glad for the opportunity to read it. In some ways I can appreciate the cleverness behind it. But, overall, it strikes me as a trivialization of something very holy. And substituting "Yertle the Turtle" for a Scripture lesson? Yikes!Robert S. Mundayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07377574491812912442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-68782215480514510422010-11-04T14:46:47.639-07:002010-11-04T14:46:47.639-07:00Following up on Free Range Anglican's comment,...Following up on Free Range Anglican's comment, the entire Suesscharist liturgy is available <a href="http://www.calvarypgh.org/seuss/Seusscharist-CalvaryPittsburgh.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Fr. Bryan Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040773309359417883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-25207954526162190422010-11-03T10:40:43.766-07:002010-11-03T10:40:43.766-07:00I followed up on Seusscharist, if you can handle i...I followed up on Seusscharist, if you can handle it, on my blog.Free Range Anglicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484140709221984584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-4429220707821331482010-10-26T12:58:51.110-07:002010-10-26T12:58:51.110-07:00What I am more offended by is the poor imitation o...What I am more offended by is the poor imitation of Seuss's poetry on the invite. If they can't do any better than that, I would not interested in coming, even if I didn't have a problem with the concept. I think mediocrity is at least as a offensive as bad theology or worship practice.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16150895177763066284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-52661727958609740872010-10-23T15:25:57.293-07:002010-10-23T15:25:57.293-07:00And every Episcopalian is in full "communion&...And every Episcopalian is in full "communion" with this thing. I wonder how anesthetized the remaining believers must be to stay where they are. Mere blasphemy, not Mere Christianity. <br /> Someone remarked to me that Mr. Geisel once said if he were invited to a party with his characters he wouldn't show up. I wonder what he would have thought of a sham eucharist like this? Things have been at the bottom for a good while now. This is just what occurs to people who are there. They can't think of anything better.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17536079575268346168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-54339054879014745892010-10-17T20:41:32.763-07:002010-10-17T20:41:32.763-07:00Bill,
Oh, the places you will go
and the things ...Bill,<br /><br />Oh, the places you will go <br />and the things you will see<br />If you hang around with T-E-C.<br /><br />The ad is enough to tell the whole story.<br />This thing is about silliness and not God's glory.<br /><br />I read plenty of Dr. Seuss when I was little.<br />But the Eucharist is something with which I won't fiddle.<br /><br />So go if you must<br />and in TEC you do trust.<br />But I'll stick with God's Word<br />and avoid things absurd.Robert S. Mundayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07377574491812912442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-13069906437553181122010-10-17T20:24:16.265-07:002010-10-17T20:24:16.265-07:00John, I don't think I can say it any better th...John, I don't think I can say it any better than my response to Ray: "There is a BIG difference between joy and silliness or irreverence." If you look at the whole of G.K. Chesterton's writings, he knew this well and, while understanding the place of mirth in the Christian life, would never have trivialized the Eucharist in the way that Clown Eucharists or Seusscharists do. Much like Lewis, who reveled in whimsy and obviously loved a good story, I believe he would have been horrified at the thought of dressing up the Eucharist in another metaphor.Robert S. Mundayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07377574491812912442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-30793328886972676702010-10-17T18:47:39.967-07:002010-10-17T18:47:39.967-07:00You're writing as if you knew what a "Seu...You're writing as if you knew what a "Seusscharist" was, or was supposed to be. Do you know it's anything other than a cutesy name? Have you contacted the parish involved to find out just what's going on?The Religious PĂcarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03620636294081499041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-75990119829206879292010-10-17T12:59:19.521-07:002010-10-17T12:59:19.521-07:00I pray we can all enter into His courts with joy, ...I pray we can all enter into His courts with joy, praise, humility, and awe, but joining in the Eucharist so often reminds me of the deadly seriousness of the mystery of being accepted into those courts. Who are we to make light of God's sacrifice? This is no game. Don't play around.Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-27773028618799925602010-10-17T11:00:29.537-07:002010-10-17T11:00:29.537-07:00I think perhaps we need to lighten up a little abo...I think perhaps we need to lighten up a little about sacred things. Humor and light-heartedness are not "sacrilegious", and are appropriate to a joyous communal occasion when we come together to Our Savior's table to sacramentally "receive" him and be joined with him <br /><br />As Chesterton once wrote: "Joy, which was the small publicity of the pagan, is the gigantic secret of the Christian. And as I close this chaotic volume I open again the strange small book from which all Christianity came; and I am again haunted by a kind of confirmation. The tremendous figure which fills the Gospels towers in this respect, as in every other, above all the thinkers who ever thought themselves tall. His pathos was natural, almost casual. The Stoics, ancient and modern, were proud of concealing their tears. He never concealed His tears; He showed them plainly on His open face at any daily sight, such as the far sight of His native city. Yet He concealed something. Solemn supermen and imperial diplomatists are proud of restraining their anger. He never restrained His anger. He flung furniture down the front steps of the Temple, and asked men how they expected to escape the damnation of Hell. Yet He restrained something. I say it with reverence; there was in that shattering personality a thread that must be called shyness. There was something that He hid from all men when He went up a mountain to pray. There was something that He covered constantly by abrupt silence or impetuous isolation. There was some one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth; and I have sometimes fancied that it was His mirth."<br /><br />John Schwarzjschwarz42https://www.blogger.com/profile/02327047583091366014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-64047026213419664502010-10-16T19:58:13.297-07:002010-10-16T19:58:13.297-07:00Ray, what you say is true: Of course Jesus created...Ray, what you say is true: Of course Jesus created wine, ate with sinners and tax collectors--but what has that got to do with anything? We should not be afraid to eat and drink with sinners. And, of course, even when we partake of the Eucharist, WE ARE still sinners--penitent ones, but sinners nonetheless. <br /><br />And, yes, the sabbath is made for man, it is made for us to worship a holy God and grow in the love and knowledge of God. <br /><br />But think what the Eucharist is, what it means, and how it was instituted: Jesus didn't make silly faces or clown around when he said, "this is my body, given for you" and "this is my blood shed for you." <br /><br />The death of God come in the flesh for us is the most sacred moment in all of history. We should enter into the experience of the Eucharist joyfully. But there is a BIG difference between joy and silliness or irreverence.Robert S. Mundayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07377574491812912442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-21934936673424866822010-10-16T17:39:57.033-07:002010-10-16T17:39:57.033-07:00Respectfully I disagree. Jesus created wine, ate w...Respectfully I disagree. Jesus created wine, ate with 'sinners and tax-collectors' and added that the Sabbath was for man not man for the sabbath. The Eucharist is FOR humans not the other way around.<br /><br />It is neither sacrilegious nor foolish to playfully enter into the mystery which is the life of God.<br /><br />Rev. Raymond McIntyrekiwimachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01431785727957742793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-28458553116907258232010-10-16T12:35:57.752-07:002010-10-16T12:35:57.752-07:00Just when I thought things couldn't get any wo...Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-53382924475775626662010-10-16T07:02:30.027-07:002010-10-16T07:02:30.027-07:00I thought U2charist and the Hip-Hop Hymnal were an...I thought U2charist and the Hip-Hop Hymnal were an abomination, and this is just more of the same. The Anglican/Episcopal Church was once a wonderful source of theology and sacred worship around the sacrament of the Eucharist. It has managed to not only forget the meaning and purpose of the sacrament, but has managed to bring the glory and holiness down to the lowest intellectual and spiritual common denominator possible.<br /><br />The Church has not only become apostate, but is now mocking the central sacrament that should be the center of every Christian's life. Come home to the Orthodox Church.The Wayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00088979176181617200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9555343.post-72360056316641033192010-10-16T05:06:17.873-07:002010-10-16T05:06:17.873-07:00Some of us are old enough to remember when no bish...Some of us are old enough to remember when no bishop would have allowed this on the grounds that supper was being served before the Eucharist, and not after, a period of fasting being required before receiving the Body and Blood of our Lord.<br />Which is to say, the evening is outside the bounds of the rubrics without the open sacrilege of the parody of liturgy that will no doubt result from parsing it into Seuss's meter and rhyme scheme. I am sure whatever egoistic "priest" concocted this will be thrilled to hear the little giggles from the congregation over his clever turns of phrase during the "creed" (or whatever it turns into), or during the "eucharistic prayer" (intentionally not capitalized, as a Eucharistic Prayer is one in which we remember our Lord, and not Dr. Seuss).<br />Someday, our Lord Jesus Christ will come back. It seems to me that the best course, when planning a Eucharist service, even if it is "just another Sunday", is to assume He has arrived and will be sitting in the congregation.<br />He is, of course, watching in any case. Something that seems forgotten, or just not believed, by too many.<br />Don't take this as a criticism of Dr. Seuss, while I really didn't want to read Green Eggs and Ham one more time, I dearly cherish those evenings with my kids when they were little. Not sure that Dr. Seuss would be any happier over this than St. Paul.TJ McMahonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09878728399945432911noreply@blogger.com